I cannot believe the condition she was in

@gary987 They basically just placed the dog with a family to use it as a free and easy breeding machine for more doodle puppies, without having to actually do any care for the dog themselves. BYBs, always looking for ways to outdo each other I guess. Poor dog.
 
@gary987 Ethical doodle breeders are almost non existent. Most would say thereā€™s none, but Iā€™m sure thereā€™s like 0.5% out there somewhere who are at least trying. AFAIK the ā€˜angel breeding programā€™ thing is nearly always a puppy mill - they use the dog being owned by someone else as an excuse to have more dogs and therefore more litters.
 
@xekuter Thatā€™s how one of the breeders that comes in gets away with having a c section every other week. Most recent event is she flew in a dog from another state, had her c section, took away the pups, then sent mom back to be quarantined! (Approx 120 day holding period)
 
@gary987 this is an exact retelling of what happened with my bernedoodle client. she's at the breeder for her last litter right now.

i hate doodle breeders in general and when i heard about the contract i had some serious doubts. it seems like a method to take the least responsibility for an animal and make the most money off them. when she came back matted, anxious, and in pain, i realized it was even worse than i thought. they even had her nurse a second litter while she was there last time.
 
@gary987 No such thing as an ethical doodle breeder. 100% of them are purely money grubbing scumbags. So sorry she got put through that - mom's got to find a way to break that contract. It would be so cruel to put her through that again.
 
@gary987 I think it's up to how strict laws around animal cruelty are enforced in your area. I would definitely report as well as the mom. Animal control is more likely to listen to us being a professional opposed to an anxious pet parent. Plus the more of a paper trail. I REALLY hope you took pictures and documented the entire groom. This isn't fair to that pet parent, dog and all future pet parents and dogs this breeder will do this too. This makes me so mad and sad. I would be heartbroken to see one of my clients come in like that.
 
@rachel24 You best believe I took photos, I didnā€™t want to include them because they genuinely made me too upset and I donā€™t wanna post anything without the owners permission. I think you have a great point about our position as professionals, it makes sense. They might take her more seriously if weā€™re able to back her up
 
@gary987 It sounds like a puppy mill situating you could try and get a veterinarian to look at the photos and make a statement too. I've moved around a bit and it really does seem to just depend on the area. I hope you're able to help make a difference! Good job for being brave and speaking for those who can't.
 
@gary987 They are breeding this dog at a year old? No competitions, no shows, no proving the dog at all? No health tests which usually can't be performed until the dog has fully finished growing? Sounds like a back yard breeder with extra steps. Breeding a dog at that age is going to shorten the dog's lifespan and introduce the potential for the mother and puppies to die because the mother isn't fully grown yet. Disgusting.
 
@thankfullness Doodles are all BYB. They wonā€™t come with papers because they arenā€™t a registered dog breed in most countries. Best you can get is a proper ethical one that does all the right things a proper registered breeder would do but they are rare.
 
@gary987 These ā€œguardian homeā€ breeding programs are only done by puppy mills and awful backyard breeders. No ethical breeder would do it because maternal stressā€”like being ripped from your home and used as a brood mareā€”has such a negative impact on the puppies.
 
@alektra I would never, ever, ever sign up to be a "guardian home." Sadly I knew of a doodle who was so aggressive by 5 months old he had to go everywhere in a muzzle. But, he was a "rare" color, and was in a guardian home so the breeder could continue their crappy program.
 
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