annaboleyn
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TLDR: any of you guys use BAT and how have you successfully been able to use it for frustrated greeters when in close proximity to other dogs? Most especially if dogs are passing each other head on. Do you use BAT or do you modify with more management/rediection (as in constantly directing the dog pass vs. allowing them to make decisions).
If you use micromanaging techniques have you found yourself able to slowly phase them out or minimize the amount of distraction/redirection?
Also for those who use BAT techniques would love to hear you general experience utilizing the method as well.
More details below if needed:
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Hey guys, curious if anyone has had experience utilizing behavior adjustment training for their frustrated greeters.
I know Bat is primarily for fearful and aggressive dogs but through reading BAT 2.0 and watching some videos by the creator/writer it’s been explained that the method is also valuable and helpful for excitable, over social dogs as well.
I have an Aussie whose reactivity is very minimal now. He only whines when he sees another reactive dog and sometimes will try to greet with a tense line if we pass another dog in 5-10ft radius. He doesn’t lunge or bark anymore but will fixate and try to air sniff them. I can tell though he is about one step from over threshold. So would love to make his feelings around other dogs a little less stressful.
I was using a lot of control unleashed and general behavior mod stuff from trainers to address his general reactivity stemming from over stimulation and hyper social behavior, but have found using BAT with dogs in the vicinity works super well in ways those other techniques did not. Such as crossing pass dog parks or dogs in a field or even on walks. For a long time we were stuck with him hyper fixating in those areas. Introducing BAT has made him way more neutral in seeing dogs and picking functional behaviors to do instead of stressing about the dogs around him. The only issue I’m still having is passing dogs head on.
I always attempt to use distance first (change direction, creat space, arch around) so I’m not challenging him to pass dogs on a regular but on occasion have no option especially on hiking paths, street corners, walking into dog classes, and bridges.
I know BAT encourages that frustrated (but non aggressive) dogs greet or interact with the subject once they are proficiently under threshold. I’m not a big fan of that because of the chance of strange dogs being reactive or aggressive and my dog triggering those feelings or my dog sliding back into more obnoxious/excitable behavior after greetings is something don’t want to risk. I also know the book says that dogs don’t have to greet although the writer prefers allowing hers to and doesn’t really give context of how to go about using the method without greeting as an end goal.
I hope that explanation makes since would be curious if you guys out there have had experience using this method and how you’ve bridged the gap when it comes to passing another dog. Do you use BAT or do you switch to something like engage, disengage and more so micromanage the behavior?
If you use micromanaging techniques have you found yourself able to slowly phase them out or minimize the amount of distraction/redirection?
Also for those who use BAT techniques would love to hear you general experience utilizing the method as well.
More details below if needed:
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Hey guys, curious if anyone has had experience utilizing behavior adjustment training for their frustrated greeters.
I know Bat is primarily for fearful and aggressive dogs but through reading BAT 2.0 and watching some videos by the creator/writer it’s been explained that the method is also valuable and helpful for excitable, over social dogs as well.
I have an Aussie whose reactivity is very minimal now. He only whines when he sees another reactive dog and sometimes will try to greet with a tense line if we pass another dog in 5-10ft radius. He doesn’t lunge or bark anymore but will fixate and try to air sniff them. I can tell though he is about one step from over threshold. So would love to make his feelings around other dogs a little less stressful.
I was using a lot of control unleashed and general behavior mod stuff from trainers to address his general reactivity stemming from over stimulation and hyper social behavior, but have found using BAT with dogs in the vicinity works super well in ways those other techniques did not. Such as crossing pass dog parks or dogs in a field or even on walks. For a long time we were stuck with him hyper fixating in those areas. Introducing BAT has made him way more neutral in seeing dogs and picking functional behaviors to do instead of stressing about the dogs around him. The only issue I’m still having is passing dogs head on.
I always attempt to use distance first (change direction, creat space, arch around) so I’m not challenging him to pass dogs on a regular but on occasion have no option especially on hiking paths, street corners, walking into dog classes, and bridges.
I know BAT encourages that frustrated (but non aggressive) dogs greet or interact with the subject once they are proficiently under threshold. I’m not a big fan of that because of the chance of strange dogs being reactive or aggressive and my dog triggering those feelings or my dog sliding back into more obnoxious/excitable behavior after greetings is something don’t want to risk. I also know the book says that dogs don’t have to greet although the writer prefers allowing hers to and doesn’t really give context of how to go about using the method without greeting as an end goal.
I hope that explanation makes since would be curious if you guys out there have had experience using this method and how you’ve bridged the gap when it comes to passing another dog. Do you use BAT or do you switch to something like engage, disengage and more so micromanage the behavior?
