Breed Identification help

[willmore]

Over a year ago I bought a Pomsky puppy and as time has gone on, my boyfriend and I are entirely unsure if she really is a Pomeranian Husky mix...

She came from an Amish farm in Ohio who didn't really know what she was since her parents were from a litter of puppies that were literally dropped off in a kennel one day and abandoned in the community who got out and became wild dogs from lack of human interaction. The gentleman I bought her from showed me her parents and her father was a heavily fluffy American Eskimo-looking dog with long fluffy thick white fur, her mother was a very similar looking dog but with much shorter hair. All of the puppies ended up being fully white like their parents with dark eyes and noses.

I'm not entirely sure how to post images to this reddit so I'll link in the comments?

EDIT

These are her puppy images

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This is her now

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[sevilodorf]

@willmore So, your dog is a puppy mill dog. That story about an abandoned litter sounds like a crock, tbh.

The best way to know is really to get an Embark dna test.

 

[kowalski1]

@sevilodorf I’d do the full embark test that includes known health related genes because this dogs background is completely unknown and if there’s any ability to be proactive about health issues do it

 

[willmore]

@kowalski1

the full embark test that includes known health related genes because this dogs background is completely unknown and if there’s any ability to be proactive about health is

We are going to be doing that here very soon and it's completely planned out for this coming pay day because of the potential health risks and such! ♥

I simply thought it would be interesting to take this to here and another SR to see what other people think as well prior to the swabbing and stuff!

 

[kowalski1]

@willmore She definitely looks like a spitz mix but the exact mix I’m not sure on. Definitely update us when you do the test!

 

[willmore]

@sevilodorf I'd say so, however I met the parents and they were not only well cared for, they were in process of being domesticated so they could be fixed and adopted out. They were captured with 2 of the 4 females pregnant and 1 male all completely white and fluffy.

I even got to meet all of the other littermates of the parents and they were in horse stalls temporarily because they were incredibly skiddish and were clearly uncomfortable with human interaction. The horseless stalls had a flip panel for bowels to feed them without intruding on them.

Other than those dogs, that farm had no other puppies or breeding dogs or even any buildings they didn't take me through aside from their cabin home. They had 1 coonhound dog that roamed with us as I was given a walk through of everything.

 

[sevilodorf]

@willmore Amish puppy mills are skilled at using guardian homes where they let prospective buyers see a nicer/more humane temporary setup than the puppy mill facility they're kept in for most of their lives.

Doesn't mean it wasn't a puppy mill -- this has all the hallmarks.

 

[willmore]

@sevilodorf

sh puppy mills are skilled at using guardian homes where they let prospective buyers see a nicer/more humane temporary setup than the puppy mill facility they're kept in for most of their lives.

Doesn't mean it wasn't a puppy mill -- this has all the hallmarks.

Oh wow- I had no idea of that!

I have had experience with my parents being responsible with actual breeders when purchasing our family dogs through the years (Only 3 dogs in total really-), so I thought I broke this down the best I could without the experienced tag with it.

We are getting Opal DNA tested here soon too and while she is super healthy at the moment I hope this will help break stuff down as we go in terms of potential issues!

Thank you for the insight!♥

 

[ppp]

@willmore At home genetic tests are pretty affordable.

 

[willmore]

@ppp We are getting that done here VERY VERY soon, we mostly are just trying to figure out what she could be for health-reasons as well as temperament and training reasons.

 

[imagebeastmarkbeast]

@willmore I’ve never even heard of Amish puppy mills! I guess it could be due to the fact that there aren’t any Amish communities where I live, but people are responding as if it’s a known fact. Surprising to learn about this. Another thing to be aware of and avoid.

 

[onthemoveto]

@willmore Eskimo dog? Could still be Pomsky. My mutt dog's whole litter was white and fluffy looking, and she was the only one that was short hair and brown chihuahua looking. The mom was black wired hair dog, so who knows, genes can express themselves in many ways.

 

[tippymoondawg]

@willmore She's within the ballpark in traits for a Pomeranian x Siberian Husky cross.

That said, don't be surprise in her DNA test (use Wisdom or even better, Embark) results if there's more than two breeds. Puppy Mills tend to have a "close enough" mindset with their breeding dogs. If they have purebreds to breed, that's great but if they have a dog that looks pretty "Pom-ish", they will call it a Pom even if there's some Chihuahua or other companion/toy breed mixed in. And a Husky looking dog is good enough if they want to make some Siberian crosses. They get more money for a cross bred (i.e. each parent is a purebred) than for a mix of mixes.