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@mfld Invest in basic obedience training if you haven't yet. If you have, it really boils down to doing your homework in those areas. However, don't expect to have any success in those areas right away. If you can't get your dog to be reliable at home, there's no reason to expect them to be...

@sarahtoo ive ranted a time or two about this as well. dog idealists like that are basically fine with dogs getting put of a kill list rather than put an ecollar on a dog and its truly fucking infuriating.

@angelaliens Step one is to be conscious of how you try and "calm her". Touch is praise, praise is a reward. If they are rewarded during reactivity, you're just reinforcing the behavior. Think purse chihuahuas barking their head off while mom pets them, and mom is so confused why it won't stop...

@imagebeastmarkbeast It bums me out, truly. Divides happen and tribes form with ideologies, I get it. Dogs deserve whatever effort from us as is necessary for their success.

@mew Idealism does terrible things for the mind, and breeds awful consequences when combined with group-think. Now, a Force Free trainer who reads that is likely gonna say "speak for yourself", as that's all reddit is, a series of echo chambers. I'm willing to answer questions on how I train, I...

@aveotheotokos Thanks, this will be my intention. I got my start as a petsmart trainer. After learning about other training methods, it kinda felt like I'd been indoctrinated into thinking +R was not just the best most effective training method, but anything else was the devil's work. It's hard...

@aveotheotokos Much appreciated, i look forward to driving into this.

@aveotheotokos Genuinely curious what those "resources" are that they cling to. If you can, either in a message or comment, I'd love to see links to these "undisputed, science backed" studies they lean on,if you can find them.

@aveotheotokos I've always liked Tom for his takes on this notion. Another take of his is that +R trainers are just fine with "death before discomfort" insinuating that a dog should rather be euthanized before a aversive training tool is introduced that might actually correct and manage...