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@hailsatan666 It honestly depends on the dogs temperament with their owner and the level of bond you have that would determine it's effectiveness I'm just describing what I did to calm my Dovah and to listen no matter what she's doing

@joannee My Dovah was the same age as yours when I got her and just as crazy Once she learned her name and bonded with me knowing I'm the person who she trusts I started showing I'm the Alpha on her disobedient behavior like nipping me when I wasn't paying attention to her, while I walked, and...