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@davecb Yeah, no way I would breed without all the genetic testing. Especially considering all the hereditary degenerative neurological conditions cockers can get; just horrible diseases. So many horror stories of cockers suddenly getting so aggressive later in life that they need to be...

@sue782 You don't need a contract to buy something. Nobody was trying to suggest it wasn't a valid purchase without a contract. But if when making the purchase you had signed something that said "I understand all puppies will be desexed at 8 weeks old", and then put down a deposit you wouldn't...

@donnags1964 Based on me getting downvoted I think somebody saw themselves in my comment and got offended 🤣. Guess they didn't read Rule 8, or think what they're doing somehow isn't the definition of BYB.

@joymatt Yeah... I just look at it as a bit weird. Most breeders I know are proud when other breeders desire their lines. Provided it's another ethical breeder whose interested. I fully understand a spay/neuter contract if the pup isn't breeding quality, or if they have reason to suspect...

@joymatt But what if someone wanted to show and breed purebreds? This breeder is against others doing that with pups from her line?

@donnags1964 I fully understand a spay/neuter contract for if the pup isn't show quality. I'm specifically reacting to the concept of automatically spay/neutering at only 8 weeks. And Idk my experience with my mom breeding GSDs and someone else I know that breeds Bichons, nearly every single...

@donnags1964 Honestly, I'd consider it a red flag if a breeder insisted on all their puppies automatically being spayed/neutered. Someone shouldn't be breeding their dogs at all unless they genuinely feel the puppies produced are going to either improve upon the breed or at worst match to the...