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    Am I the only one who doesn’t like using the term balanced trainer?

    @ocdgal46 honestly though, I think this is where a lot of confusion comes in. It would be nice to have a different word for different levels of aversive. Same thing about the association from the word "punishment." People immediately think "abuse" when in reality it's just enough pressure to...
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    Balanced to R+ and Back?

    @tubal My overall perspective is that placing training styles in "camps" is bad (hard not to do this, and I'm very guilty of this myself sometimes). If a method works for your dog and your dog is happy and healthy then nothing else matters. I'm pretty anti FF ideology (their overall perspective...
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    Am I the only one who doesn’t like using the term balanced trainer?

    @ramfel When I first heard Tom and other trainers talking about this mentality from +R trainers I thought it must be hyperbole. But then I started to talk to them and to my horror I realized it's absolutely true. That's when I realized that Force Free is pretty much a cult at this point.
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    Am I the only one who doesn’t like using the term balanced trainer?

    @aveotheotokos There was also another study that found a huge correlation between muzzles and aggression. Wow, can't imagine why there's a correlation there. The same survey study found the same correlation between aversives and rewards for aggression. Even on this review you linked there's a...
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    Am I the only one who doesn’t like using the term balanced trainer?

    @aveotheotokos They're also like 90% survey studies. Yet the force free community acts like there's definitive proof and if you don't believe them you are a "science denier." I really want to just comment "CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION" on their posts over and over again but they would...
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    Why I chose to use an e collar and my experience / results

    @jasdksdc This is great to hear and I'm glad more people are coming out with these positive stories to balance out the negative ones. If I didn't use an e-collar on my husky he would never be able to be off leash and he wouldn't have the fulfilling happy life he lives today (it's also saved his...
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    Am I the only one who doesn’t like using the term balanced trainer?

    @legitjpw I watch American Standard's long for content. I don't use all of it and there's some stuff that would be a bit harsh for my dogs temperament, but overall he has really good training methods. Honestly, without his video on hind leg awareness training I wouldn't be anywhere close to a...
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    Am I the only one who doesn’t like using the term balanced trainer?

    @lovejt209 I don't think having a podcast with the dog daddy implies that he agrees with his methods. There's nothing wrong with open discussions even if you disagree with the other side entirely. That's a lot of podcasts.
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    Chameleon E-Collar Functions

    @family1stdad Damn, that's wicked smart Marty
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