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@habanero Actually, in my experience having taken two 6 week sessions at petsmart, they dont allow aversives. Flat collar or harness is all that's allowed. I took the beginning and intermediate class at our local store and the trainer was really great. I had do back out of the advanced class...

@oranget Your dog has a great life! Maybe prong, maybe really training the pull out of her. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth till you're sick? Anytime there is tension flip directions. Anytime. It's a bit exhausting because you generally don't get anywhere, but worked for me. Just...