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@tubal You are looking at it very fragmented. Look at their entire training system. You will see overlaps with r+ for sure. R+ is very valuable in training and it should probably be around 80-90% of your training. But its part of the entire training system, not a fragment. NePoPo is also worth...

@tubal R+ is not better for engagement. Good training is better for engagement. You need to learn a lot more about drive. Also I get the idea you arent using pressure properly. Your training is probably also not fun for the dog. Look at trainers like Michael Ellis (leerburg) and Dave Kroyer if...